Discount Rates

Question A:

Despite the empirical failures of the Capital Asset Pricing Model (CAPM) in explaining expected stock returns, a shareholder-value maximizing publicly-traded firm should still use the CAPM to calculate the cost of equity in capital budgeting.

Responses weighted by each expert's confidence

Question B:

The equity risk premium that U.S. publicly traded firms should use in cost of equity calculations in April 2023 is above 6%.

Responses weighted by each expert's confidence

Question A Participant Responses

Participant University Vote Confidence Bio/Vote History
Campbell
John Campbell
Harvard
Disagree
8
Bio/Vote History
While the CAPM may be a reasonable first approximation, the cost of capital is better described empirically by a multi-factor Fama-French-style model or by an intertemporal CAPM that distinguishes between cash-flow risk, discount risk, and variance risk.
-see background information here
Cochrane
John Cochrane
Hoover Institution Stanford
Disagree
8
Bio/Vote History
For most projects, comparable are better than CAPM. To price a burger, look at the restaurant next door or calculate cost of raising a cow. Beyond CAPM failures, we don't know betas or expected returns.
Cornelli
Francesca Cornelli
Northwestern Kellogg Did Not Answer Bio/Vote History
Diamond
Douglas Diamond
Chicago Booth Did Not Answer Bio/Vote History
Duffie
Darrell Duffie
Stanford
Uncertain
7
Bio/Vote History
There is empirical support for more complicated models with more factors. Introducing more complex models into practice, despite the absence of a strong theoretical basis or empirical consensus, and then adjusting over time could be beneficial, but adoption is difficult.
Eberly
Janice Eberly
Northwestern Kellogg Did Not Answer Bio/Vote History
Gabaix
Xavier Gabaix
Harvard
Disagree
8
Bio/Vote History
Goldstein
Itay Goldstein
UPenn Wharton
Uncertain
8
Bio/Vote History
Graham
John Graham
Duke Fuqua
Disagree
7
Bio/Vote History
Harvey
Campbell R. Harvey
Duke Fuqua
Disagree
8
Bio/Vote History
Given we don't know the true cost of capital, it is better to look at a variety of methods (and the CAPM should be one of them). It is well known that the CAPM omits certain key features like downside risk. In practice, companies use discount rates far above the CAPM (see link).
-see background information here
Hirshleifer
David Hirshleifer
USC
Uncertain
5
Bio/Vote History
Hong
Harrison Hong
Columbia
Disagree
8
Bio/Vote History
Cost of capital fluctuates over time potentially due to mispricings and firms should rationally optimize investments based on this.
Jiang
Wei Jiang
Emory Goizueta
Agree
7
Bio/Vote History
Kaplan
Steven Kaplan
Chicago Booth
Agree
3
Bio/Vote History
Good place to start because Delaware courts will expect you to. However, in my experience, betas are sometimes unreliable / problematic.
Kashyap
Anil Kashyap
Chicago Booth
Uncertain
3
Bio/Vote History
It is what I teach, but mostly because even if you do something fancier it usually won't be pivotal. Getting the cash flows for capital budgeting is usually way harder than getting the discount rate and it is easy to cross check with other assumptions.
Koijen
Ralph Koijen
Chicago Booth
Disagree
4
Bio/Vote History
Kuhnen
Camelia Kuhnen
UNC Kenan-Flagler
Agree
8
Bio/Vote History
There is no other model that is the clear alternative to the CAPM that is taught to business folks.
Lo
Andrew Lo
MIT Sloan Did Not Answer Bio/Vote History
Lowry
Michelle Lowry
Drexel LeBow
Disagree
7
Bio/Vote History
Given the failure of the CAPM, at a minimum a firm should do sensitivity using alternative models (e.g., Fama-French). This is particularly relevant for firms in size - BM categories where CAPM failures are particularly large
Ludvigson
Sydney Ludvigson
NYU
Agree
5
Bio/Vote History
It could still be used as a benchmark. Despite the fact that it doesn't work well empirically, it's not obvious what model to replace it with.
Maggiori
Matteo Maggiori
Stanford GSB
Disagree
5
Bio/Vote History
Matvos
Gregor Matvos
Northwestern Kellogg Did Not Answer Bio/Vote History
Moskowitz
Tobias Moskowitz
Yale School of Management
Uncertain
9
Bio/Vote History
The CAPM fails in the short run, but looks much better over longer horizons (Moskowitz and Stambaugh (2022), Cho and Polk (2022)). So as a long term estimate of the cost of capital it should fare better, but it tends to miss short-term info which could be mispricing.
Nagel
Stefan Nagel
Chicago Booth
Agree
8
Bio/Vote History
Despite the empirical failures in explaining average stock returns in historical data, the CAPM may still deliver the right cost of equity for long-run value maximization (Stein, 1996, "Rational capital budgeting in an irrational world", Journal of Business.)
Parker
Jonathan Parker
MIT Sloan
Agree
9
Bio/Vote History
The basic CAPM, which uses beta from the return on the stock market, provides a good measure of the cost of equity but must be used smartly and can be improved upon, where critical decisions include time horizon and frequency, and improvements use broader measures of returns.
Parlour
Christine Parlour
Berkeley Haas
Uncertain
8
Bio/Vote History
Multi-factor models would lead to more accurate estimates. However, the correct factors to use is opaque.
Philippon
Thomas Philippon
NYU Stern
Agree
7
Bio/Vote History
Puri
Manju Puri
Duke Fuqua Did Not Answer Bio/Vote History
Roberts
Michael R. Roberts
UPenn Wharton
Uncertain
9
Bio/Vote History
They should use the CAPM OR an alternative (e.g., implied cost of capital, multifactor) but they should use some financially grounded model.
Sapienza
Paola Sapienza
Northwestern Kellogg
Uncertain
4
Bio/Vote History
assuming dispersion and typical shareholder structure of the public corp. then I tend to agree in lack of better alternatives
Seru
Amit Seru
Stanford GSB
Uncertain
6
Bio/Vote History
Stambaugh
Robert Stambaugh
UPenn Wharton
Uncertain
9
Bio/Vote History
A case for yes can be made, as the sources of the empirical failures matter.
Starks
Laura Starks
UT Austin McCombs Did Not Answer Bio/Vote History
Stein
Jeremy Stein
Harvard
Uncertain
5
Bio/Vote History
Stroebel
Johannes Stroebel
NYU Stern Did Not Answer Bio/Vote History
Sufi
Amir Sufi
Chicago Booth
Uncertain
8
Bio/Vote History
Titman
Sheridan Titman
UT Austin McCombs
Agree
10
Bio/Vote History
Its still probably the best heuristic available.
Van Nieuwerburgh
Stijn Van Nieuwerburgh
Columbia Business School
Disagree
7
Bio/Vote History
The company should use a risk-adjusted return that reflects its exposure to several sources of systematic risk, including market risk but also others (interest rate risk, size risk, value risk, profitability risk, etc.)
-see background information here
Whited
Toni Whited
UMich Ross School
Strongly Disagree
7
Bio/Vote History

Question B Participant Responses

Participant University Vote Confidence Bio/Vote History
Campbell
John Campbell
Harvard
Disagree
6
Bio/Vote History
A dynamic steady-state model (Gordon growth model) suggests the long-term expected real stock return is currently around 7%, but the 20-year TIPS yield is above 1% implying an equity premium slightly below 6%.
Cochrane
John Cochrane
Hoover Institution Stanford
Disagree
7
Bio/Vote History
Most guesses of the equity premium (stocks over bonds) are lower than 6% these days, hovering more in the 3% area. The postwar period was pretty lucky, and growth has slowed. Still, stocks are so volatile that the standard error will always be high.
Cornelli
Francesca Cornelli
Northwestern Kellogg Did Not Answer Bio/Vote History
Diamond
Douglas Diamond
Chicago Booth Did Not Answer Bio/Vote History
Duffie
Darrell Duffie
Stanford
Disagree
2
Bio/Vote History
Estimating this risk premium is considered difficult. Agreeing with "higher than 6%" would seem over-confident to me.
Eberly
Janice Eberly
Northwestern Kellogg Did Not Answer Bio/Vote History
Gabaix
Xavier Gabaix
Harvard
Disagree
6
Bio/Vote History
Goldstein
Itay Goldstein
UPenn Wharton
Disagree
7
Bio/Vote History
Graham
John Graham
Duke Fuqua
Agree
1
Bio/Vote History
Harvey
Campbell R. Harvey
Duke Fuqua
Uncertain
8
Bio/Vote History
Most companies use a risk premium above 6% - at least from the survey evidence. This could reflect capital constraints, a preference for projects with very large upsides, etc. Just because this is how companies operate, does not mean it is how they should operate (see link).
-see background information here
Hirshleifer
David Hirshleifer
USC
Uncertain
5
Bio/Vote History
Hong
Harrison Hong
Columbia
Agree
6
Bio/Vote History
Historically equity risk premium is about 6% over lots of macroeconomic environments.
Jiang
Wei Jiang
Emory Goizueta
Disagree
8
Bio/Vote History
Kaplan
Steven Kaplan
Chicago Booth
Uncertain
8
Bio/Vote History
Forward equity risk premium is always very hard to know. 6% is a good place to start.
Kashyap
Anil Kashyap
Chicago Booth
Uncertain
7
Bio/Vote History
How could we know if it is really 5 instead of 7, given the volatility in the data. Plus see my other comment on discount rates more generally.
Koijen
Ralph Koijen
Chicago Booth
Disagree
4
Bio/Vote History
Kuhnen
Camelia Kuhnen
UNC Kenan-Flagler
Disagree
7
Bio/Vote History
Lo
Andrew Lo
MIT Sloan Did Not Answer Bio/Vote History
Lowry
Michelle Lowry
Drexel LeBow
Disagree
5
Bio/Vote History
Ludvigson
Sydney Ludvigson
NYU
Uncertain
8
Bio/Vote History
Maggiori
Matteo Maggiori
Stanford GSB
Disagree
6
Bio/Vote History
Matvos
Gregor Matvos
Northwestern Kellogg Did Not Answer Bio/Vote History
Moskowitz
Tobias Moskowitz
Yale School of Management
Strongly Disagree
9
Bio/Vote History
6% is high and based on ex post realizations from equity markets that did well. Moreover, theory has a tough time justifying such a premium. Plus, looking at current valuations, it’s hard to justify a large premium today going forward.
Nagel
Stefan Nagel
Chicago Booth
Disagree
9
Bio/Vote History
Stock market valuation levels are too high relative to long-term real interest rates for a 6% equity premium to be plausible.
Parker
Jonathan Parker
MIT Sloan
Strongly Disagree
7
Bio/Vote History
The price dividend ratio which has been a good predictor of future returns suggests much lower returns going forward at the moment, as do bounds constructed from the Ian Martin bounds on expected returns.
Parlour
Christine Parlour
Berkeley Haas
Strongly Disagree
8
Bio/Vote History
Although the estimates of the equity premium have changed over time, a lower number seems appropriate.
Philippon
Thomas Philippon
NYU Stern
Uncertain
5
Bio/Vote History
Puri
Manju Puri
Duke Fuqua Did Not Answer Bio/Vote History
Roberts
Michael R. Roberts
UPenn Wharton
Uncertain
10
Bio/Vote History
I am sure that the data are noisy enough to make this conclusion suspicious and that alternatives below 6% are statistically plausible.
Sapienza
Paola Sapienza
Northwestern Kellogg
Uncertain
5
Bio/Vote History
We should still use an average historical difference, which is still probably between 5 and 7 percent for US
Seru
Amit Seru
Stanford GSB
Disagree
5
Bio/Vote History
Stambaugh
Robert Stambaugh
UPenn Wharton
Uncertain
8
Bio/Vote History
Above versus below is about even. Key is to recognize the uncertainty.
Starks
Laura Starks
UT Austin McCombs Did Not Answer Bio/Vote History
Stein
Jeremy Stein
Harvard
Uncertain
5
Bio/Vote History
Stroebel
Johannes Stroebel
NYU Stern Did Not Answer Bio/Vote History
Sufi
Amir Sufi
Chicago Booth
Disagree
5
Bio/Vote History
Titman
Sheridan Titman
UT Austin McCombs
Strongly Disagree
10
Bio/Vote History
I tend to tell the students to use about 5%. One can justify a lower rate as well. Its has declined over time as stock market participation has increased.
Van Nieuwerburgh
Stijn Van Nieuwerburgh
Columbia Business School
Uncertain
7
Bio/Vote History
The equity risk premium is very difficult to measure, even in long samples. Realized excess stock returns were high and bond yields were unusually low over the past 40 years, raising the realized excess return above the expected return going forward. 5-6% is about right.
-see background information here
Whited
Toni Whited
UMich Ross School
Disagree
5
Bio/Vote History